I've copped a few comments about trying too hard and things like that which i just let wash over my head. And the folly of it all is that in the longrun these cheapskate tactics don't save the business money, but actually lose them customers like me, who'll want to shop at a place where we feel our business is appreciated. Its a culture thing. I'm not saying that I think all men should be wearing gray flannel suits or that all women should be wearing Paris dresses like they did in the conformist 1950s. At lunchtime you'd walk into the local Macy's mens dept, say "no thanks" to the cologne lady who wanted to spritz you & join the 100 other guys at table after table of dress shirts and neckties. They may claim no money,but even thrift stores,have nice clothing. My occupation means suits much of the time, or if I'm lucky very samrt casual. One cannot help but wonder where are morals and standards are heading to and it's quite sad to see America this "dumbed down". Sure, everybody thinks that because they live in the United States of Moronica, have tattoos, piercings or want to look as though they have been living in a homeless encampment (even if they really don't) that this is freedom of expression. Am I shopping at the grocery store or in the hood? Someone asked here "What the hell happened?" But I can't help feeling that there are too many dirty ingredients in the melting pot now. This has zero to do with being poor. You go into public and see people who don't even try to get dressed after getting out of bed. I can go down to the Men's Clothing Warehouse and spend three hundred dollars to look (approximately) like a millionaire. If you want to understand the cluelessness of the American male when it comes to dress, consider a recent Men's Wearhouse commercial in which a fellow freaks out simply because . Feeling good about. Even then there were much better choices and styles in menswear and home furnishings, etc. The whole bare legged crap with tattoos, scars, birth marks razor cuts, and my ever favorite, that spray on orange crap they use running down their legs! I can go to the thrift shop and put together a nice outfit for $10 so when my coworkers, who show up in jeans/leggings say they can't afford to look nice that's unacceptable to me. Justin Bieber in all of his tattooed, T-shirted and untamed hair glory earlier this month . Apparently this "casual Friday-and-then-some every damn day" way of dressing is a national epidemic and according to a some, a tragedy. They're always wearing track suits and sweats! I have made a vow: I dont care how old and arthritic I become (and I already do have a very damaged, arthritic knee) I will not dress like a frumpy old mess to go out to a theater. I'm an apple shape - I have no business wearing baggy t-shirts or too small pants. However, I continually wonder what the hell has happened to our country, with its sham "values" and its embrace of the ugly and hideous, whether it be in fashion, bodies, attitude, politics (don't get me started about Trump!) I'm not saying that I have a problem with people wearing t-shirts, shorts, etc. But then they still wouldn't care. If people want to let their ugliness hang out in public, I suppose it's their choice. 135. Even in the court house, I asked my attorney (suit and tie as with most of the men) females working there with bare legs and tattoos that actually think they look good? Personally,I fail to see how any of these teens expect to be taken seriously in the real world,when they dress like dumpster divers,street walkers,and wannabe gang bangers,and are covered with tattoos,body piercings,and other mutilations.News flash child,nobody wants to see your underwear,or your scrawny (or giant) backside. I always have my make up on, hair done and no tattoos. Then you use your finger to sign the screen! I know I'm late. I don't wanna be a traitor to my generation and all, but I don't get how guys dress today. Technology alone, including . I usually end up wearing jeans, t-shirts, leggings, sandals, sneakers, and boots because theyre the most practical and comfortable for me. I get turned off by the ugliness of tattoos and poorly and slovenly dressed people every time I go out. I just don't understand why some, if not many, lesbians choose to look obscene. No wonder everybody from Patti LuPone on down is complaining that nobody knows how to behave anymore: If you dress like a child, chances are youre going to act like one. A colleague who used to work at the Neue Galerie a museum housed in a former Vanderbilt mansion would see visitors in cutoffs. The Canadians apparently take more pride in their appearance than we do. The USA is being taken down on purpose..you really don't want to know what happens next..David. Zero class. While he was wearing a nice, flannel, striped double breasted suit, he looked ridiculous. Sorry for the rant, Pam. I think it can be said that never before was a population of citizens in supposedly the world's most prosperous country so hideously attired. The baffling popularity of reality TV shows like. It has really become pervasive, and I won't go back to eat at a restaurant that operates this way. Those cost money so its funny how none is spent on clothes yet tats get it. I recently went out to dine a "chain Italian" restaurant that shall be nameless, but is one that is very popular and is nationwide. (I hate Picasso, for example.) Sad isn't it? ). My father practically wore a coat and tie to mow the lawn. It's sad that people find flipping through Instagram more important than there own appearance. Quite absurd and totally devoid of fashion. I agree with you, Anonymous. Lose weight and you too can fit into nice suits. When people were invited onstage at a recent performance of Penn & Teller on Broadway, many women looked as if they had stepped out of a jazzercise class, while men ambled around in hideous cargo shorts. A young male yesterday that came in wearing flip flops, tank top, shorts and it was 40 degrees. Good for you for making the effort to look nice! But nobody has a problem because there's no need for them to look any better or have pride in themselves; they get the work done and life goes on. Very true article, the men today dress like they just rolled out of bed.The typical male attire is a wrinkled up T-shirt, baggy shorts, no socks and flip flops; pathetic!Truthfully, is it asking too much to wear a clean pair of jeans, a dress shirt and shoes with style?Also make sure to button-up the tunic, wearing a dress shirt with the top unbuttoned is a no-no. They have two children with them. I don't get it. The dress pants that were available were of cheap fabric, studded with rhinestones, and had fake pockets. Also the problem of world overpopulation and terrorism are alarming. But, I digress, it pains me that young people today dress as though they've swept their clothes up off of the floor. A longtime user of the citys public courts and their anything-goes dress code, I complained at West Side daring to demand all white from its patrons but I eventually caved because I badly wanted to try out the clubs famed grass courts. I had a couple of social justice warriors tell me that I was judgmental and that I had nothing better to do then complain. I was a sales associate in the men's and coats departments. One of Spokane's long-embraced myths holds that our attitudes about casual attire are sharply divided along generational lines. The only people that I know who dress acceptable are the elderly. It isn't realistic for me to try and don a suit that only an italian twink would be able to wear, even if I wanted to spend a bunch of money trying to do so. Atom Because of fear of communism, all kinds of social organizing has been discouraged, and now they are reaping the rewards. I spend a lot of time wondering when people will care of such things again. RARELY do i see a person dressed perfect. Everything looks like rags now, cheaply made with the least amount of fabric and no linings. SupaSaucy. Also agree with Bill on the tie thing, at least in socal. I've bitched about this topic many times. Good piece, Pam--I honestly think about this almost everyday (from an office perspective). I mean, c'mon, it looks like they just fell out of bed and put on some baggy pants, and take their greasy hairew!and cover it up with a backwards cap and, like, we're expected to swoon? The guys were better but not by much, dress shirts, clean dress pants/kakis. Now, I should add that I do have long hair (which I keep tied back when in public) and a longish beard (also kept neat and clean). Burlington Coat Factory, Filene's Basement, and Marshall's all have designers clothes marked down to ridiculous prices. I work in an elementary school and always dress professionally even though my title is not a high one at this point. I don't consider the Kardashians a good example of the point you're trying to make, because a lot of what they wear is trampy. Also, I've never understood the appeal of bulky hooded sweatshirts, particularly on women. It's still ugly, however. Some conservative commentators and celebrities began calling for a boycott of Bud Light after the beer was featured in a social media promotion by a transgender influencer, Dylan . Because clothes are freedomfreedom to choose how we present ourselves to the world; freedom to blur the lines between man and woman, old and young, rich and poor. Am I saying that our society needs to return to the way it was 60 years ago? I thought this was so disgusting that I called the store and told them to look out for this person who went in. The youngish male weatherman (or meteorologist) appeared on the screen for about thirty seconds to give an update on the weather conditions for the country. This copy is for your personal, non-commercial use only. 123 reviews. In the 90s you had the start of the grunge rockers and the leftover crazy look of 80s punks, then you got into the whole gangster look from rap and hip hop. Quite a different time today unfortunately and nothing at all like the good old days were. variety. I said on here a few months back in another post that every day we're another day closer to the depressing world depicted in "WALL-E" where humans are so obese they are immobile and they suck their nutrition from cups all day while glued to computer screens. You are public uglies and should be banned from going outdoors. I immediately asked the waitress to remove it from my table when we were being seated. There, a nation of slobs paraded through the crossroads of America. BTW I had a suit on as well! People's fashion changes from state to state or even county to county. La La Land indeed. Never apologize, Pam, for stating the obvious. A person can always change his clothes, but he can't change ugly tattoos. Proper manners in general have slipped exponentially. Tell that to the slobs who turn up at Broadway shows dressed as though theyd just walked in from a tailgating party one with a three-figure admission price, mind you. Sadly, theres so few places now where you wont be seen as ridiculously overdressed. Half the time you cant figure it out. That way they could develop a sloppy style that could be made for very little money and sell clothes for a lot of money. I'm finding it more difficult these slovenly days to find male attire that is with the classic look, and which doesn't look hideous. It's rather timely that I found your article because I had commented on a post in Facebook about the same thing. Whatever the reason, I refuse to believe that lack of money is the main cause for dressing like slobs. I just don't understand why females dress like slobs. Their posture is better, too. People today just don't seem to give a s*it about their appearance and the way they present themselves. I personally don't like it but to each their own. No wonder everybody from Patti LuPone on down is complaining that nobody knows how to behave anymore: If you dress like a child, chances are you're going to act like one. Casual fashion was just starting to become socially acceptable but not allowed obscenities in public. I think people need to realize that looking nice and decent does wonders for their self-esteem and their own civility. Hot pants are maybe not the best idea at a gourmet restaurant. To judge from Professor Przybyszewski's students, her one-woman crusade to rescue the nation from its own sloppiness is bearing fruit. I might otherwise resemble my Norse ancestors, though even they cared about their appearance. I'm tired of it and wish that there would be a return to more conservative times when dressing to at least look presentable was the norm. It's been going on now for years and does absolutely nothing to ensure the average American will get noticed for their sense of style and sophistication. Every roll shows the fat. I will add it is related to class to some degree. He would wear dress pants, open neck shirt and sport's jacket and was overdressed compared to everyone else who were in baggy jeans, many torn or frayed, flip flops, shorts, very sloppy looking. So many people here just covered in tattoos. Talk about a decline in class,decency&valuesugh. Nobody wants to see your jiggly manboobs. I have been noticing this problem for years. They do not care what they wear and where they sleep on. Stars like Jonah Hill, Shia LaBeouf, Post Malone, Wiz Khalifa and Justin Bieber dress like dorm-room slackers, supercharged with AmEx black cards. All I know is, I make twice the money I did in 1995 but feel about half as professional. I'm just at a loss as to why someone thinks that looks good. The same store today has nothing to speak of anymore, which is a pity. It appears to me, in my humble opinion, at least, that our society has given up apsiring and has accepted these debasements, and doesn't care about "keeping up appearances" at least for the sake of one's self respect. He's the only one in our office wearng a shirt & tie now, it's obvious who's boss. Even working class people (which I am) used to take pains to dress as best they could for special occasions, such as church or going out to dinner. So many people will say, "Who are you trying to impress? All the blouses are super long that I can't find a decent blouse to go with skirts. What the hell happened? For a clue, its name ends in "Garden." Sadly,so many women also do it too. I have a challenge for people who read this. Like someone commented above, its sad that you would be looked at funny for wearing a suit with a fedora because you like to look nice. Now that I'm more mature, I want to completely revamp who I am and have a classic wardrobe with mostly dresses and skirts. A suggestion in one of the European books was to save all your worn-out, stained, threadbare clothes for your big European vacation, and then throw out each item after it was worn - that way, there would be ever-increasing space in your suitcase for souvenirs. Hey Pam, I'm not American, i'm a young male living in Brisbane Australia but we've picked up the super casual slobby dress here too especially in my generation. Am I saying we need to go back to dressing like they did in the 1920s. %-). Nobody has any pride in himself/herself and nobody has any energy to look at another person either, so there is no need for pride anymore. I have a busy life and chronic pain. when running errands, by the way. I see a lot of people in stores that wear flip-flops (even in winter! Better yet, look at photos of bands like the Who, moody blues, the small faces, and the Beatles in the mid 60s during the height of the mod movement. I won't change but i definitely don't fit in appearance wise. In one image, he stands there in baggy, cornflower-blue track pants with mismatched sneakers and an unzipped cycling jersey. I think dressing is a lot of fun and it's sad that more people don't see the fun in it. It was a privilege to wear jeans on Fridays, but now it seems we've gone to the other extreme, and in many offices the dress code is too lax ornonexistent. All of this appears to go hand in hand with the socio-economic problems that afflict our country, and, by extension of our misbegotten empire, the rest of the world. On a recent visit to LA calling into a Walmart was depressing. However, there is such a thing as being too casual. And why do women allow their husbands/boyfriends to dress terribly, when they are dressed up? My men and even the men of the Royal Marines had everything from gas piston to bolt assembly immaculate and lightly oiled within 15 minutes. Apparel is being displaced by travel, eating out and activitieswhat's routinely lumped together as "experiences"which have grown to 18 percent of purchases. Ironically, I think that this is where most of today's confusion originates in the problems that are upon us now. Large women in ugly t-shirts with vulgar sayings, "my other friend is a slut too," political or just idiocy. Loving the comments. A few people also unfollowed the page. Many might point to the younger generation, its not. Who are they trying to impress if anyone? Who has lime green shorts? Well, I have absolutely nothing against same sex people, since I am one. Small blessings, right? But you've got to realize that we live now in an age of post-1984 surrealism and computerized fascism. Esquire went so far as to proclaim this "the Summer of Sleaze," pointing to celebs dressing like "high-school drug dealers." It's also due to the usage of technology and exposure to the information sewer which is the internet. We've received your submission. "Dress for success" is a true statement. It has gotten so bad now that if a man wears an ordinary suit outside of a strictly professional business he will be conspicuous, and people will wonder if he's some snob or is rich and showing off. Very nice post! As I live in a German speaking country I have also noticed that formal greeting is being more and more reduced. Anyways, thanks for stopping by! Today, I still go out in public wearing decent-looking clothes. It's hard to look good in anything,if you look like a beached whale,both men&women. This has, like evey other stupid thing, become endemic to so-called American culture, and it's really annoying to me. About tattoos and piercingsI have a lady friend in Ukraine, and we've both noticed that the younger women in Eastern Europe are now following the American trend of covering themselves with tattoos and getting piercings (nose, lips, etc.) Well, if everyone is tattoooed then they all look the same, which is to say they all look like shit together. It gets so old, and it's just another reason why my opinion of society is beginning to drop.Im all for individuality and self-expression, and Im not suggesting that everyone needs to dress to impress when they leave the house. I am a woman&I too,hate that disgusting,hairy homeless bum,ungroomed look. That really got 'em going. I'm constantly surprised by all the jeans in the office (I guess at 52 I'm old school, but I can't bring myself to wear 'em to work. Part of looking like you care about yourself,is taking care of both how you dress AND how you take care of the only body you have. These people are an eyesore and they're getting worse! As for ankle pants--what happens when winter hits? I'm not asking that every man dress like Don Draper and go to work wearing a suit, tie, and hat (but us ladies would certainly not complain if the working world looked like that again; just saying.) I once went to a Meetup event after work once that was held in the downstairs lounge of a nice local restaurant. When they dress like slobs, they act more like slobs. This was some fifteen years ago. This is what "American culture" has given to today's world, and people eat it up like candy because they want to be like these people. After all, if you dress better, youll feel better. I will not wear the rags. However, whenever I go out I at least bathe first and put on clean clothes. Every roll, jiggle and bump is on display. I might wear sweatpants at home in the cabin, unless I'm expecting someone or plan on going somewhere, though out in public I try to look at least decent and clean. Take a look at television shows from the 1950s or at "Mad Men," and note how stylish people dressed when in public. (Sorry for my long ramble). Obesity is a problem (latest report out said -- SURPRISE -- it's increased among American adults AGAIN) but if anyone says they are only physically attracted to someone their own size they get attacked. 12 Courtney Love Courtney's style has always been along the lines of grunge/alternative so the preppy pant suits and super sexy dresses were never exactly her thing. I could go on and on, but I fear I have said much and don't wish to pontificate at the expense of your patience or your blog. That's not bullying, it's setting the standard. What a moronic joke. Suits, ties, and dresses: Ah yes, the way people used to dress for summer BBQs. People don't think for themselves anymore. Let's not pass over the fat women slobs out there. .css-16c7pto-SnippetSignInLink{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;cursor:pointer;}Sign In, Copyright 2023 Dow Jones & Company, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Its all about money, many do not have the means, i get it, ive been poor too, but i never looked like a mentally ill hobo. If you make people feel good about themselves, they won't care how you dress. I don't look like a slob. I hope this idiot trend of looking like slobs will eventually swing back the other way. All written content, unless otherwise noted as being quotes, has been written and copyrighted by me. Especially if its in an office building in New York city we see all the people going to and from and dressed perfectly. Take a look sometime at how male movie stars are dressed for a magazine shoot, and especially European celebs. But I can say this with a shudder: If I were a lesbian, I would not find this type of hideous look the least bit of a turnon. Their were still social taboos on what people couldn't wear in public. Apparently there aren't even dress codes for businesses anymore, and anything goes. Hi Pam, I've commented on this site before, and I thought I would give you an update as to how the thoughtless, ignorant masses are "behaving" in service restaurants these days. Adult couples wearing raggedy t-shirts with some ugly nonsense graphic on it. When I still worked as an engineer and an I.T. Also, I realize that appearance isn't everything and that personality has to be accounted for when recognizing nice people. Visited Europe. Im a single man of 47. I apologize, but let me tell you about the latest I observed which was beyond the pale. Its not just younger people. It doesn't take much money to wear actual pants in public, instead of sweats and basketball shorts. Using profanity on live tv or radio in the "old days" was once unthinkable, but now there are those who think that free speech enables them to be a foul mouthed pig - or look like one. Canadian here and I can tell you the majority of people dress terribly. I was watching the NBC nightly news not too long ago on a Sunday evening. Not to mention the hoards of young males with scruffy beards and un-groomed facial hair.I get the feeling many have never heard of such a thing as a belt as well. I was beginning to think i was just a grumpy ole buzzard. And guess whatI can afford my groceries,too. 87990cbe856818d5eddac44c7b1cdeb8, Continue reading your article witha WSJ subscription, Already a subscriber? I'm 69 and think some people who dress like slobs have mental health issues. So they started promoting the casual slob look in sitcoms, magazine, fashion shows and in the media. StillShaving. I should add I agree with the poster who commented on the excessive tattoos. There are comfortable dress shoes! Where is the decency?I'll probably be "overdressed" in their eyes, but I intend on showing up to class in a nice dress and heels everyday with my hair neat in a braid. I dress in accordance with the weather and make sure Im properly covered. Recently I had the opportunity to play at the West Side Tennis Club in Forest Hills, Queens. As I live in a German speaking country I have also noticed that formal greeting is being more and more reduced. Then there are the so-called mens suits, again, made from cheap, chinese polyester fiber with no wool. You can see what this means by tuning into Judge Judy and looking at how far down the tubes America has really gone in the last 20-30 years! Even though America is still in an economic depression (yes, it really is! My husband and i go out to expensive music performances, some of them classical, and I see older people dressed just as heinously, though. And I think these big fat slobs SHOULD be shamed. Even though Im retired, I still love to dress up and follow fashion. Its okay to be heavy now, even if that weight gain resulted from a bad diet. The screens are getting thinner and the people are getting bigger. In the 80s we "woven ties", around 1990 everything was silk with geometric patterns, in the mid 90s, the trend was floral ties!I walked into that same dept store a week ago and saw virtually nothing. (1995). I do not in any way claim the rights of ownership to any of them. Not everyone is or can be a size two. Justin Bieber in all of his tattooed, T-shirted and untamed hair glory earlier this month in New York City. 286 friends. Big bellies flowed over the . Consider a recent story in the news about Mitchell Casado--a. working for uFly--who was fired for not dressing professionally enough. Could you imagine someone like Elizabeth Taylor or Cary Grant covered in tattoos? civil air transport corporation case summary,

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