Gerry. I remember one of my friends falling into the river off the bridge and clambering out the other side after swimming under the bridge in the river current. Magic for post-war Palmers Green teenagers. What about the old corn merchant on the corner of Osborne Road and the tiny sweetshop nextdoor! Any idea of what it was called? You must be signed in to save to an album. The 70 volunteers in only one group working towards a Better Palmers Green is really, really impressive. vintage Alabama diners and drive-ins Went to St Monica School from 1970-71 before we were transferred to the new Our Lady of Lourdes School in Arnos Grove. The lived AT 56, Lightcliffe Road and granddad worked at a city bank. I suppose those of us `of a certain age` have lots of war memories stored away. I grew up in Palmers green Monica's Church, Palmers Green St Monicas, 1 Stonard Road, Palmers Green, London N13 4DJ Phone: (+44) 020 8886 9568 Email: palmersgreen@rcdow.org.uk Website: It was a large detached house surrounded by a beautiful garden which took up the whole of that corner site. Hi Reg. I seem to recall that it was situated in Princes Avenue on the right, a short distance from Green Lanes. At the moment I am trying to come as far as I can on the Internet, before I visit the UK and try to walk in my grandmothers footsteps, trying to imagine her life. I worked in that Bricks mens shop in1971. Was it a post office too? The garage was called Saul and Slatters. Im not sure where Jays originated in Croydon or elsewhere but in any case it appears to have ended up as a national chain, with branches in places such as Bristol, Luton, Northampton, Croydon and Sheffield, as well as areas of London including Palmers Green, Stoke Newington, and Walthamstow.. By 1801 Palmers Green had 54 dwellings, including two inns and two farms. Despite the opening of the station on Aldermans Hill in 1871, little development occurred at first, mainly because wealthy landowners like the Taylor family had no need to sell. Seiferts (e the owner of the Studebaker Car and Parker Pen (2/6d for cesstificats after the War) practice. Mr Mardell was the Station Master, Dave Conway was a Porter and Ron Newman was the leading Porter. I hated the dumplings at school dinners. Areas like Palmers Green have changed a great dealover the years;the memories of others help us see where we live with new eyes. Speaking to The Stage this week, Parsons said, It would be so sad to see the Intimate Theatre disappear as many artists learned their trade there, perfecting their craft, not only in acting but also how to walk a stage, as they say., Berkoff was characteristically more direct, In the past 20 or more years, we have lost hundreds of libraries, score upon score of theatres, endless lido swimming pools, and the reason always given is to build yet more soul-destroying rabbit hutches.. By then of course, Jack was long gone from Palmers Green, and truth be told, was probably little ever here, though in his day Palmers Green was still being built and there were still some fields to roam north of Bourne Hill. I remember once using the underground public toilet at the triangle and sure there was an assistant there in the days before we considered disabled people. Yes, and the gas fire which hissed and stuttered. )(i am yet to be convinced I wos wrong). Also Broody and Hicks who sold cameras in the 1970s. The former Southgate Town Hall has now been converted into flats. Had good times in Broomfield park and fishing in Grovelands park lake. Palmers Green High Street Circa 1955 1960 A Memory of Palmers Green. Memories of a lovely green and leafy suburb, with a beautiful park Broomfield. Yes, very tall, Scottish doctor with elderly receptionist and very noisy gas fire. On the corner of Aldermans Hill and Devonshire Gdns was the United Dairies shop. People were lying everywhere because a bus had been crushed, and there had been a dance going on in the hall above Pitmans College which had been bombed. The adults who gave their time for us were great people! I remember the Coffee place & it wasnt Home & Colonial.. that was a few doors up!! Many years later when I was adult he told me what he saw. It was quite good really if you wanted a weatherproof coat and were prepared to go in! I then went to Hello Dave, I didnt know Victor Madden when he was young as I live in Ely, nr Cambridge, but luckily, I met Victor on a Rock and Roll weekender in 2009 and we spent the next 7 years together. I owe so much to your father who be came friends with my father and would meet for a drink in the COCK TAVERN. I know Pete and Bill Starling locally, not related though. At the 1960 Masters Tournament, Palmer gave a glimpse of things to come when he birdied the final two holes to nip Ken Venturi and win by a stroke. Here in Cornwall too warm and damp this week for me as a farmer. It's easy - just think of a place that brings back a memory for you and write about: Here are some of the places people are talking about in our Share Your I lived in Tottenham rd during the war and remember being wrapped in a tartan rug and carried out side by my dad who was an air raid warden to see. How to get to Morrisons I have fond memories of Palmers Green, as I worked at the station from aged 15 in 1963 till 1968. I remember the big round plastic tomatoes containing tomato sauce. She mopped up my tears when I failed the 11+ (I did however become a teacher myself and always remembered her kindness) Then onto Winchmore County School -what a great school. I learned from research that my grandmother had died in 1970, aged 45 in Essex. Spent hours with bits of wire making stemless posies! our school on fire by insendery bombs ,also the sky appearing like a red sun set and being told it was London docks on fire.mr rodwell Mrs green are. Not prescribed by my doctor Seifert of Hedge Lane fame. I wish I had found this page earlier as he would have loved to chatted with you about Palmers Green as that is where he had his office and owned several properties in that area. I now live in Bedfordshire. Served by The management of waste in north London has long been an area of concern, all too often subject to seemingly unsatisfactory answers to reasonable questions. The corner premises were never re-built on and the empty space was then used as an open car forecourt called Kieths Cars. The community of one- to -three-bedroom apartments offers meticulously with various junction improvements. As I hadnt had any response to my original comment I was beginning to think I had imagined him. to help others in the future delve back into their past. Hi Jenny ! London Paddington Station to Palmers Green Share by email. I remember Tom I worked opposite him at Triangle Cars for 5 years in th 60s . I used to go to the Devonshire Cafe for dinner, not everyday but quite a few times, we would take the dinner back to the station, then return the empty plates all washed. WebSt. accounts of a childhood when things were rather different than today (and everything inbetween!). By 1801 the area had grown to a village of 54 buildings, including two inns (according to the Middlesex Record Office). We recently had an email from Bente Dalsbaek who is trying to trace members of her family from when they lived in Palmers Green in the 1970s. Annyway she, (my Ma) also directed me to buy my first suit from them (powder blue with just a touch o pink pin stripes) for my first day to work in 1950. Socks, vests, liberty bodices(!) Local records mention a Palmers Field in 1204 and a Palmers Grove in 1340. Can anyone help? At the time Kennings had a garage in Edmonton which I remember was a Jaguar dealer so I imagine our old car hire site was the Jaguar dealer you recall and would most likely have also been a Kennings branch. My main memory of the Queens Cinema was the film The King and I which I watched there with one of my friends Malcom Oldhill. WebPalmers Mens Size Large Purple Checkered Button Up Short Sleeve Shirt. My entire lunch money would be spent on a Cola float, Coke and ice cream with a cherry and a fruit pie for dessert! Last I heard he was still alive and well in his house in The Meadway, starving comfortably! Gerry Hicks, Hi. I wasnt as lucky as you & never actually ate at Doms though, but if I was very good my treat was the ice cream and I still have a sweet tooth to this day. How does it feel, seeing these places again, as they used to look? The UKs leading archive and publisher of local photographs dont make us laugh its football or economics ere. But you are right about the window where you got served. I used to get home absolutely filthy but so happy. Im sure Fred Rain lived in the Larches. The, Today is the 7th July. We sold nuts, bolts, spares for bikes, tyres wheels, skates with steel wheels. Special treat of afternoon tea at Pritchards, next door to Evans and Davies. Hope this helps. Also the sports shop was further up on the parade of shops opposite the old Woolworths. There was nearly always a queue to have your hair cut and my Mum would go shopping while I and my brothers sat and waited next to the coat stand. I remember going there with my Mother and having lovely ice cream in a silver sundae dish. !.thank you for jogging my memory. These chairs had the smallest seats Ive ever seen and I often thought it was a miracle that my Gran ever managed to perch on one. Copyright Frith Content Inc 1998-2023. Palmers Green is a suburban area and electoral ward in North London, England, within the London Borough of Enfield. And another question on the same side as the H&C but further towards Winchmore Hill opposite a photographers, there was a Jaguar garage. The area remained largely undeveloped for thirty more years, as local landowners refused to sell their large estates for building. also the restuarant above the sweet shop in Green Lanes which was opposite the Queens Cinema? Lovely shops, great parks such a pretty place. hang across the window pegged on string!!! flexible offerings for business. Im doing some research on my family who lived in Tottenhall Road where teenagers and young adults hung out. Hi Mitchell thank you for fillinin some potoles,, browsing more recent contributions those pioneering days we have evolved sophisticated and In the 50s there was a shop towards the end of Palmers Green (on the right hand side as you went toward Winchmore Hill) that ground coffee. Everett was the first black lad in our school in the mid 50s. Beg to differ, Miss Hughes was headmistress of the Infants, and Miss Bellfontaine was headmistress of the juniors. Dave Todd. An album is a way to save a selection of Frith photos, maps and memories that are of interest to you. PALMERS GREEN Hi. I dont remember it being a bomb site though, Hi Jennie, Search for your favourite UK places and read memories of the local area The large, electric coffee grinding machine visible in the shop window. The Intimate Theatre was opened in a building that had been built in 1931 as St Monica's Church Hall. WebPalmers Green. I remember having lunch with you on quite a number of occasions when I came down after moving to Bedfordshire, then Milton Keynes. Just found this: The next occupant of the premises was Jays Furnishing Stores, a hire-purchase furniture store first listed in Wards 1911 directory. I practically lived in the Bezzaz Coffee Bar!!!! Michael do you remember Mr Forkin at St. Michaels school Tottenhall Rd.arranging a boxing ring with proper gloves in the playground afternoon break with you & Everett Houghton as contenders? Amazing to find others to share memories with from those times. Who helped me get accepted for nursing training. Website hand-made by Frith, since 1998. My Grandparents ,my mother and my god mother were residents of Palmers Green in the 1910 onwards til abt. Yore Dad probably employed my Dad (as a freelance) their musical doins seems to ave run parallels. I knew of Joe performing at the Municipal Hall, Tottenham but he is not in our family tree. Founded in 1901 by my grandfather, but was knocked down in the 60s to make way for the widened North Circular? My earliest memories of the site are from WW2 when, as a youngster in a pushchair I saw an aircraft being wheeled out of the building which stood there. Still beautiful. See https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/save-the-intimate-theatre-palmers-green. Lovely caf. Ray. When we were small the barber put a piece of wood across the arms of the chair for us to sit on or we could not be seen in the mirror! Dad has been pottering around outside in the cold all morning, doing odd jobs but now, while Mum cooks, he is in the living room in his chair in front of the television, still in his baggy green jumper, which is gradually becoming more hole than jumper. Further up from Ashwells towards Devonshire Rd.was a beautiful shop selling china and glass.This was close to the shop with the heavy coffee smella quite small shop which was probably next door to the 2nd. Im impressed. Jack had a difficult childhood. There was a garage forecourt at the top of Hedge Lane where in intersects with Green Lanes, Was that a WW2 bomb site does anyone know? Ive only just found your comment. Also the first Wimpy Bar at the triangle in the mid 60s? I remember that day vividly as, just as the tv was made to work, on the screen we were just in time to see the Boat Race with Oxford sinking up to their waists in water. The bombs which fell in Green Lanes/Princes Avenue referred to earlier were caused because one of our anti-aircraft guns which were mounted on the railway line shot off the back of a plane carrying bombs to drop on London and the whole stick fell there. I had the best 7 years of my life with Victor, but sadly he died only last month, February 7 of cancer. I just recall the horse. as many did back then or another location. I went there 1953 1958. yes: miss belfontaine was head of Hazelwood juniors and mis hughes head of infants. After the war he ran various bands Bert Harts band any combination. We had to make our own fun in those days, there were no iPads, computers,,,,,,,,,,, etc. This was back in the early 60s. Sylvia , there was a WW2 bombsite at the corner of Sidney Ave/Green Lanes near Bowes Rd it was used in the 50/60/70s as a car yard called Kieth Cars, no longer live in PG so not sure what stands there today. I started at Hazelwood in 1963 too and l also live in Singapore. The tramway is now long gone. There have long been rumours that the Intimates days were numbered. I wonder if anyone remembers Dr Baxter who had a surgery in Hazelwood Lane at the junction with New River Crescent where the maisonettes are now? I remember the mac shop. Facebook Email or phone Password Forgot As Mr. Auger sed want to be a farmer eh-eh-young-un? Also Victor Value supermarket. Local records mention a Palmers Field in 1204 and a Palmers Grove in 1340. Yep, remember Doms very well too in the 50s. Great memories, we lived in Winchmore Hill, in the 60s, 70s and 80s these comments bring back so many memories. Miss Wrigley used to rattle you back and forward in your desk if you didnt behave. Remember Roberts toy shop near the corner of Hazelwood Lane? SPONSORED. I remember Peter Townsend the sports car dealer opposite the library and the ABC and the Wimpy bar at the triangle. Palmers Green We went to Sothgate County Grammer School in Fox Lane. Do you remember a bus that got his by a bomb during the war as no one seems to have any photos or accounts about this. Palmer, then 29, won the 1960 U.S. Open with the most mesmerizing birdiefest in golf history, six in the first seven holes to start his fourth round. Has any reader furniture in use purchased from Allen & Appleyards at 362 Green Lanes, replacing Kiltycakes Cafe next to the still existing post office? Also remember Mrs Dark who took 4A, an excellent teacher. Was it The Queens? I dont remember you should I? I believe she moved up to Scotland after living in Ibiza for a while. In 1914 he was commissioned into the Middlesex Regiment as a 2nd Lieutenant and was killed on 1st July 1916 at the Somme. Ill call you a Fcab etc. I remember the Brody and Hicks name and Fotovalue. Then for a short while it was a Menswear shop that sold high end suits, shoes etc. If my memory is correct that represented .W.W. I also remember being taken into a shelter during this time due to the `doodle Bugs, although I was only about 3-4 years of age. xx, Hi Unsubscribe anytime. My brothers and I were trying to remember where the furniture store Jays was located in Palmers Green, can someone help. I was given an anointing spoon to commemmorate the big day. By the way I went to Winchmore Secondary Modern in the days when Mr. Shepherd was headmaster I liked him a lot the naughty kids called him the beak but he was a nice man. I went to Brownies and Guides at that church too! Remember the barbers shop. They were green wooden gates. .and ALWAYS ordered egg, sausage & chips. Palmers Green was once a tiny hamlet in the parish of Edmonton, situated at the junction of Green Lanes and Fox Lane. 70s. St. Monica's Church, Palmers Green Would love to hear your memories of the 50s & 60s. Life isnt all about the big Bit of paint on the ground for cyclists, which drivers will ignore, That graphic shows an upwards trend FYI.. As often a pedestrian (not a car owner and over 65)I feel prompted to say that I really appreciate the introduction of Cycle lanes. He must have spent a lot of time fixing kids injuries as my memory of him was from when I fell off my scooter whizzing round the garden and I damaged a tendon in my leg. Was Mrs Dark the wife of Mr. Recommended option Train Take the train from Old Street to Palmers Green 24 min 5 - 8 3 alternative options Line 141 bus Making own fun! In 1969, the New Jersey lottery got its start and New Jersey native Buzz Aldrin (from Glen Ridge) landed on the moon with Neil Armstrong. Hi Christine. I assume there was no ammunition in the house, though! Shame I cannot post some photos here. I think it was called Harvey Sports (a friend of mine had a Saturday job there) & next door was a fabric shop called Metres which sold everything from net curtains to dress fabrics and upholstery materials, The couple who ran it were very kind & patient working our how much material you needed for your windows etc. And neither, strictly speaking, at least to begin with, was its presenter, the pipe puffing Jack Hargreaves, who, you have guessed it, was born in Palmers Green in 1911. There was no bomb site where the garage was. WebPalmer Green Estates, in Palmer, MA, is an affordable community designed with families and seniors in mind. also the Unigate milkman who had an electric cart and kept saying oh brother. It was a black moment for Palmers Green as the bodies of the dead & injured were laid out on the pavement. List of teachers at Hazelwood school 1960s, Miss Hughes, Mrs Jones, Mrs Lee, Mrs Dark. Best wishes I have lots of childhood memories about Palmers Green Railway Station. We've had many contributors recognising themselves or loved ones in our photographs. Er, Dave, surely The Bezazz opened nearer 1957 than 1967 frothy coffee and all that. In fact on A10 between Lister Gardens and Ostliffe Rd, there is still a gap in the terrace where 2 houses were hit during the war. Take butchers, for instance, within 10-15 min walk of me (Chequers Way, where Metal Box Co was), there were 5/6 butchers that I remember walking to with my Mum. history. I went there with my sister and her friends I think the Small Faces were signing autographs ? I recall Miss Gibbs as having a scary face she had pictures of the Beatles up in the corridors and wore rather wayout clothes. Going back a bit who used to run up Fox Lane, stand on the bridge and wait to be covered in steam from the trains . ..annyway the day come in 46 for the first consignment of Dinky Toys on sale at J&AI got there late in the queue and only the hEmplacement Coastal Gun was leftbought it but should .ave kept itin its box what price now? Barrowell Green pool was always on the cards in the summer! Back to the New River, us 4 from 3b Southgate County met on Sundays in Geoffs Grannys House, Riverway and mounting to her Summer House Roof Platform at the end of her garden invented the game of Catchreeling, making our apparatus from cotton reels and cottons supplied by Granny the object was to cast as fly fishing to snare the bundles of cut grasses that seasonally the New River Authority trimmed from the banks. Dad was in the ARP with your uncle, I have been trying to find some photos of the ARP at Palmers Green but as yet not successful. Hello everyone. Southgate County School organised its annual swimming gala there whilst I was at the school from 1948-53, under the leadership of Mr. Reg Pratt, the handicrafts master. I could probably bore everyone to death with them! In 1961 the company was acquired by Car Mart Sales Ltd, but retained its name. I remember being in your house when she visited them. I remember the flower man James! those pioneering days we have evolved sophisticated and And of course, it gave its name to Fox Lane. Anyone remember him? My memory goes back to 1956, I would have been 8 years old and my Dad used to take myself & my younger brother to Doms most Saturdays during the summer holidays for a midday lunch treat, He would put us on one of the 5 bar stools which were positioned at the rear of the cafe on the right hand side, we would pick up the menu because it looked grown up! Was this the Barbers that was in a room behind Glossops the sweet and tobacco shop. Yes, Dave, I knew Vic Madden by sight only, in the early 60s. Palmer's 1960 Until they pulled the cinema down and built Telsco's. https:// smartsurvey.co.uk/s/FC1F4B/ 1. I can say that Victor enjoyed every minute of every day. Cullens sold loose biscuits from large tins and lots of different dried fruits and unpacked ingredients that could be bought in any quantities and were then bagged in paper bags. Lovely tiered plates of sandwiches and cakes. Regards David. Life is very different now and this great website has brought back lots of lovely memories for me. Local pickup. Good times eh Dad?. To supplement income he was a musician from 1926. Mr. Pratt was very critical of my dovetail jointing but roped me in scenery building for the annual Gilbert and Sullivan Operas as did Miss Green, Art, for paintings. Miss Bellefontaine was the head teacher at Hazelwood Infants school during the forties, I know as I attended that school. What a lovely road it was then. Life was never the same again. A saxophonist my father often booked had the first name of Larry. More details Which Bus lines stop near Morrisons? I believe some time in the 80s Doms was sold but the new owner had the good foresite to retain the classic Doms signage, but not the good foresite to retain the ice cream servery!. Bedroom Wardrobes & Storage for Sale in Palmers Green You just came up in conversation and I Googled you. My parents bought our very first television from them a Bush table model which was also installed by them. Footnote: Dad an is fellow freelances performed under aliasis to avoid problems with HMCRC.why else am I cultivatin a full Santa Claus beard5 months to go! Lovely tiered plates of sandwiches and cakes. Regards on Improbably famous in Palmers Green #5: Jack Hargreaves, on Intimate demolition plans: Just a minute says Nicholas Parsons, The twentieth century and urban life in literature, Palmers Green Baptist Church, Green Lanes, Palmers Green United Reformed Church, Fox Lane/Burford Gardens, St Georges Presbyterian Church, Fox Lane / St Georges Road (demolished), Palmers Green and Southgate Synagogue, Brownlow Road, Palmers Green Mosque and Education Centre, Oakthorpe Road, Local dignatories, bigwigs and characters, Improbably famous in Palmers Green #5: Jack Hargreaves, Intimate demolition plans: Just a minute says Nicholas Parsons, http://www.palmersgreenn13.com/2015/11/03/every-street-in-palmers-green-5-ladies-and-gentlemen-live-from-palmers-green/, For more about the Intimates heady days of stage and screen, see. I was at Winchmore when Mr Shepherd was there as Head. Much later in I guess the 70s? Geno Washington once played there. Very interesting. Yes the coal man also had a horse and cart to make deliveries. There was a bank on one corner of Sidney Avenue which had also been hit. The green plastic leaves on top could be unscrewed to put the tomato sauce in. We lived in North London on the boundary of Palmers Green, N13 and Southgate, N14. I remember the tremendous explosion and my father tying the washing up bowl over his head with a towel and running down Sidney Avenue to help. This was run by a short tubby lady. Some boys from Winchmore worked for him on the window cleaning. Wonderful area. WebPALMERS GREEN FARMHOUSE, Non Civil Parish - 1083776 | Historic England Home Listing Search the List List Entry PALMERS GREEN FARMHOUSE PALMERS GREEN FARMHOUSE Listed on the National Heritage List for England. I can still remember how I felt when I saw it. Yes Bezazz coffee bar, went their most nights as well around 1964 onwards coffee, egg & chips, juke box, pinball machine, 3/6d last all night!..some faces Denis Day, Mick Stanton, Mick Smith, Dave Todd, Michael joannou, Michael De Bear,Wendy & Susan Smale, Laureen Blackwell, the cast goes on! The walls were lined with painted tongued and grooved wood. I was born 1935 in Clapton E. Clapton Mothers Home, but my Mum was born in 1917, er Mum born in St. Pancras Workhouse (next to St. Pancras Station Lunnon) of them days.,Mum went to skool in Islington of very poor (financial m,barrased) parents (both boxmakers on the premises)annyway er memories included bein sent from er classroom in Islington with a friend as escort on the tram to Ulleswater Road, Palmers Green, becos er teacher ad left certain documents behind (or wassit sanwiches (any teacher memories ere?). Stephen Woodward I recall Miss Bellefontaine Im exactly ten years younger that you and started at Hazelwood in 1963. Was that called Pritchards or am I mixing it up with somewhere else? My father, now age 74, is following my research with great interest and I hope to be able to provide him with some answers as well. My mum used to take me to the clinic in Broomfield House and I can still taste the orange juice they gave us,fantastic! Later, I remember seeing my very first E Type Jaguar outside the shop with a number plate personalised JA number forgotten. Going to the cinema on Saturday mornings was a treat to watch the Lone Ranger. I was born in Oakthorpe Road during the War (February 1944) and attended the Convent in Oakthorpe Road. Sylvia, I. As I was only young then, I have no idea why that happened. 1990: Doug Palmer becomes mayor of Trenton - Capital Century Remember Martins the newsagents- corner of Green Lanes and Hedge Lane. Remember the Windsor Caf. Hello again, I posted a question about your possible father Fred Rann, but I now realise I meant Sid Rann, was he your father? But if it is the right Colin Fisher, I do not yet know. and thank you for posting. I bought my red Mk III Ford Cortina from Keiths in the mid-late 1970s and my maye, Dave Todd bought a bright yellow one from the same dealer as I recall. Was it a V1 or a V2? Palmer's Green and Southgate She ated the chairs and the oover and most else e lovingly carried ome. Spent a few happy days with him and also his parents at their house up by the new river. ps. very posh! Annyway she sees the ambience of Palmers Greenery so later Dad as to buy a property to satisfy er haspirations Palmer Green wise N14annyway my Palmers Green is Jewell in Crown (I am salutin you er Majesty) no rushkeep crackin on, eh? Palmers Green Within the latter development the building that now serves as Hazelwood Infant School and Hazelwood Junior School was built in Hazelwood Lane in 1908. Notable local buildings include Broomfield House and Truro House. After the war it was on weekly visit. No I cannot remember the name of the garage and can barely remember the garage let alone that it was selling Jags. I think it was late 50s . All had presentsmine was miniature guitarwere you at that party? roses) at certain times of the year and was very beautiful. Any help on how to find out would be much appreciated. I think it then became Volvo (Triangle Motors) followed by a high end mens outfitters selling suits, shoes etc. I seem to remember it being a Vauxhall dealer then a Volvo garage (?Triangle motors), in the 80s & 90s. And a bycycle from J&A (Rudge) set me free on those open roads, YHA and the romances. Some good times at Arnos. St Monicas, who own the site, first made a successful planning application to replace the theatre (also known as the Large Hall) with a single story parish centre in 1992. Palmers Green - Wikipedia I have vague recollections of my mother taking us to what seemed quite a posh tea shop called Shepherds which was on Aldermans Hill opposite the park, does anybody remember this? [9] The song's lyrics were written by Lewie's friend Keef Trouble, a fellow member of Brett Marvin and the Thunderbolts.

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